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Europe Defense: Spending Target High   01/14 06:20

   

   WARSAW, Poland (AP) -- The defense ministers of Europe's five top military 
spenders said Monday they want to continue increasing their investments in 
defense but described meeting President-elect Donald Trump's challenge for them 
to raise spending to 5% of their overall economic output as complicated.

   The defense ministers of Germany, France, Britain, Italy and Poland came 
together near Warsaw for a meeting in a new format that they established after 
Trump was re-elected last year. Their first meeting in this format of five NATO 
members was held in Berlin in late November.

   The five are seeking ways to maintain their support for Ukraine as U.S. 
policy is expected to shift when Trump takes power. They also discussed how to 
strengthen Ukraine's own weapons production capacity.

   The German minister, Boris Pistorius, stressed at the start of the meeting 
that they all support a just peace for Ukraine, one in which Kyiv has a say 
over its fate. There are concerns in Europe that Trump could push Ukraine to 
make unacceptable concessions to Russia.

   The defense leaders also addressed questions of military spending after 
Trump recently called for NATO allies to increase their spending to 5% of gross 
domestic product, a level that no NATO member has reached -- not even Poland, 
which is the closest, spending over 4% and expected to approach 5% this year.

   Several of the ministers said that focusing on the number as a percentages 
isn't enough.

   "I just think that a static debate about percentages doesn't really help us 
if it doesn't ultimately lead to the implementation of what NATO has agreed 
upon together, what the goals must be," Pistorius said at a joint press 
conference. "In my opinion, that's what matters."

   He also said that for Germany to invest 5% in defense would mean spending a 
little more than 40% of its entire national budget on defense. "I think that 
would put an end to the debate very quickly," he said.

   His Italian counterpart, Guido Crosetto, said his government knows it needs 
to spend more on defense but also needs to weigh that against reviving the 
economy.

   "Increasing defense spending at a time of economic crisis is more 
complicated than at other times," Crosetto said. "If we combine the two, that 
is, if we make the European defense industry one of the ways in which we can 
revive the economy, we can combine the two."

   French Defense Minister Sbastien Lecornu said that while there will be 
increases in security spending, they should not all go to purely military 
purposes but also should be used to protect society against cyberattacks, 
terrorism, and other non-military threats.

   "And you're all repeating 2%, 3%, 4%, without really knowing what the point 
is," Lecornu said, responding to a reporter's question. "Well, let me be 
straightforward. The situation is worse than during the Cold War. It's worse 
than during the Cold War simply because we have new areas that have become 
militarized, and these are largely digital," Lecornu said.

   "And you can see that we are in a world in which we can be defeated without 
having been invaded. And that means that the responsibility for the defense of 
our countries will go well beyond military issues alone," Lecornu said.

 
 
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